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WHEN GOD GIVES UP

As we said earlier, we could have just have easily have named this book "WHEN MAN GIVES UP ON GOD", because in reality this is exactly what many have done.   Just when we need God most our rejection of Him, is pushing Him further away. In the first six chapters of the Bible God established certain unchangeable guidelines.  During the times of Noah and Lot, men rejected thee basic guidelines, to their own destruction.   Christ foretold, that the same mindset and attitudes which were prevalent during Noah's and Lot's day, will be once again evident in the last day.  The people of Noah's and Lot's days  did not have a Bible to read or a church they could attend.  What they did have was  God's basic guidelines, concerning the modes of conduct which were essential for an orderly society. #1.They knew about the creation and the fall.  #2. They knew God had established the role of the male and female, in regards to relationships and sexuality.  #3. They understood the concept of marriage, and #4. commitment to ones family.  #5. The men of this timeframe knew that God had appointed the man to function in the leadership role, regarding family and protector.  #6. They knew that violence and abuse such as murder, rape, robbery etc was wrong.   As it was during the times of Noah,  so it is once again:  We are seeing  everything God established in the beginning, (the first six chapters in the Bible),  being dismantled.  (CLICK NEXT TAB BUTTON TO ADVANCE SLIDES).  

 

Paul said because men continually rejected the truths, which God himself was constantly trying to get them to see, there came a time when God gave up, and let them become victims of their own lies, (compare).  24Wherefore  God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:  *26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:   27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.  28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient  29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Rom 1:24-31. 

 

Three times in Romans 1:24-31, we read that "God gave them up (over)." This does not happen immediately. God is a God of patience.  He is longsuffering.  He strives with men and calls them to repentance.   He withholds His righteous judgment for a long season.  But finally there comes a time when this judgment is withheld no more. What does this mean?  It means that instead of the Holy Spirit working to restrain men from engaging in the sin they conjure up in their minds, God allows men to engage in their sinful activities to the utmost. In this study we will seek to help you better understand how to be truly saved, from this terrible fate,  if perhaps God has not already given up on you!!   When God gives us over to a reprobate mind three things happen.   #1. We become bound to a deadly carnal mindset,  #2. We become victims of our own lies,  #3. We stay bound in all manner of sinful activity,  which for some includes religious, self righteous activity, minus a real relationship with God. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient , Rom 1:28.  There are certain steps which lead to this deadly condition, the Bible refers to as being given over to a reprobate mind).  (Compare below, click on the next tab to advance slides

When we use the term "when God gives up" we are not implying in any way that God gives up on being who he is.  God has been, is, and always will be God almighty.  The Bible declares of God "2Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." Psalm 90:2.  God does not give up on being who he is. The Bible does warn us,  by both word and example, that there comes a time when God will give up on trying to call, convict, correct and change those in our society, who continually ignore his voice.  We would like to explain from the outset, of this study, God loves us all and he is very longsuffering toward us, because it's not his will for any of us to be lost.    9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2nd Pet 3:9. Therefore it is not our call to say who God has given up on, or the exact moment God does give up a person.  This is between God and the individual. However the Bible does warn that God will not always try to change a person, who has determined in their heart, they don't want to ever change.   At the beginning of part two of this study, we tell you the main reason why God gives up.

 

 

We have often heard the phrase "pray and don't give up" but in an astonishing turn of events, God told Jeremiah to not pray for the people.   God went even further and told the prophet, if he did pray for them He would not answer his prayers.  Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee."  Jer 7:2-16.  

 

How could a people become so wicked in his sight of God, that he tells the prophet to not pray for them, and if he does pray for them, He (God) would not hear?   David Wilkerson, explains the mindset and attitude of the times which led to this tragic circumstance.  David tells us that because God loved his people He had initially sent Jeremiah on a mission to warn these people, and encourage them to turm back to God. The problem was the people refused to humble themselves, they refused to repent, and they refused to turn back to God.   Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the Lord" (Jeremiah 6:13,15, KJV).  "The prophet Jeremiah saw a horrible condition coming upon Gods people. To hide their sins they had begun living behind a facade of superficial peace and security. Greed and covetousness had so overcome their hearts that they camouflaged their lustful pursuit of sin, with a phony brokenness. Their entire lives had become superficial -- superficial tears, superficial repentance, even superficial healing. Gods people had lost their sense of shame and grief for sin -- sin in society, sin in the church, sin in their own lives. They no longer felt Gods hatred and wrath against sin. Sin had become "just one of those things." Jeremiah cried out, "Were they ashamed when they sinned? No! They were not at all ashamed -- neither could they blush!" Jeremiah gives us a picture of the terrible moral breakdown that occurred in Israel and the house of Judah.   Even when God sought to turn them back to him with the rod of correction, they refused to return to Him:    Thou has stricken them, but they have not grieved; thou hast consumed them, but they have refused to receive correction: they have made their faces harder than a rock; they have refused to return (TO REPENT)" (Jer 5:1-3).

God's own people sat under a message of searing truth -- yet they turned away from it. They rebelled against it! Read it again: "They made their faces harder than a rock; they refused to return!" They were committing adultery by romping with harlots and lusting after their neighbors' wives. In verse 11 Jeremiah called it outright treachery against the Lord!  In spite of all the prophetic warnings by Jeremiah, these people went their merry way, saying, "Neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine" (verse 12). "Judgment is not Gods message for us, "they said. Their fear of God was waning. There was a revolting, rebellious spirit rising up in the hearts of multitudes of Gods people: They had enjoyed great prosperity, but it had become a snare. This trap led to deceit, and eventually their houses became dens of iniquity. They were winking at sin -- sin that should have grieved them deeply. God warned His people to heed the instructions of the Word being delivered to them or He would depart from them. "Be thou instructed, O Jerusalem, lest my soul depart from thee" (Jeremiah 6:8). 

 

The original Hebrew says the people grew weary of rebuke. They grew tired of being exposed and stripped by the Word of God (their conduct, character, and state of being. Was exposed).   Why did they turn away from the hard warnings of the watchmen, why did they refuse to repent? Because a nerve had been touched. Their idolatry, greed and covetousness were being exposed; they were committing secret sin. "For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest" (Jeremiah 6:13).  Both in the pulpit and the pew, the hearts of Gods people were being led away by greed and covetousness. But they excused and justified it all! They had no shame! They did not blush! No one could bring himself to believe that the prophet was speaking to him personally. We have many examples throughout history of God giving up on a society and allowing them to wallow in their own pride, perversion, wickedness, even their own religion. to the point of destruction. Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee."  Jer 7:2-16.   BECAUSE OF A REFUSAL TO REPENT,  ON THE PART OF MANY IN OUR SOCIETY,  WE ARE ONCE AGAIN SEEING HISTORY REPEATING  ITSELF.

Please understand  that it is not our desire to imply in anyway that we are better or holier than anyone else.  Nor when we mentioned the sinful conduct of others are we insinuating, that we are perfect.  (On a personal note), Since I have been saved I have done many things that I am ashamed of.  God has given me many chances, and for this I am both humbled and grateful.  We are all in this struggle to overcome our fallen sinful nature together.  Therefore I take the same position as the apostle Paul.  " But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway".  (1 Cor. 9:27). By these words Paul freely admitted the possibility that even he, the great Apostle, could "be disqualified," that is, fall away, and thereby become a cast away.   He acknowledged, as do I, that none of us are exempt, from Gods right to give up and let us go the way we choose.  I am  aware of the fact that after all the preaching and teaching I do, If I don't humbly trust and obey God, he will reject me, the same way he will anyone else.   I ask you to please keep this in mind, I am not looking down on anyone, but merely seeking to sound a warning which applies to us ALL.  I love you, no matter who or what you are.  While it's true that Satan binds and blinds most men to the truth, he can only do this effectively with lies and deception. OF ALL THE LIES SATAN BINDS AND BLINDS WITH, THE ONE WE LIST BELOW IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST.  (click on next tab to advance slides).

Many today don't seem to understand that the acceptable time to answer Gods call is when God is dealing with our hearts.  Many today who continually put off answering the call of God, point to the thief on the cross, as proof that they have plenty of time.  It should be kept in mind there where two thieves, and only turned to Christ, which one will you be?   Many are taking a chance, by purposely ignoring God, thinking that at the very last moment, they will,  (like the thief) will simply say Lord have mercy.   *In the book we address this issue.   Many will find out when it's too late that they where the thief who could not repent at the last moment. What many, who think that they have plenty of time, fail to realize is that we can only come to God when we are still convictable, and God is granting us audience before him.    6Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:   7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.  Isaiah 55:6-7.   The more we harden our hearts to the call of God, the harder it gets for us to answer the call.  No where in the Bible does God tell us that we have plenty of time to live in sin and do what we want, and at the tail end of our lives he will be waiting for us.  God tells us just the opposite.  He tells us that the day that we hear his voice, is the day we should answer his call, 15 WHILE IT IS SAID, TODAY IF YE WILL HEAR HIS VOICE, HARDEN NOT YOUR HEARTS, AS IN THE PROVOCATION Heb 3:15. 

THE MIND IS THE KEY--- Many today who know that God is calling and inviting them to come to Him, think they have plenty of time to come.  Some of these individuals are hearing the call for the first time, others have heard the call of God for a long time, and some, who answered the call, had since backslide, (yet God calls out to them to come back). Many will be offended by this book and even the title itself, "WHEN GOD GIVES UP" Because they arrogantly assume that God will always be there, trying to turn them to him, until their last breath.  Others believers will take offense because they have been taught, once you get saved, you are always saved.  They believe that even if they turn away from God, (after salvation) and continually live in sin, God never gives up  trying to get them to come back.  Most people don't realize the significance of their thoughts, in regards to the impact it has on their relationship with God. The mind is the one place where we decide, evaluate, love, hate, believe, disbelieve, etc.  During the days of Noah, God saw that the minds of the people were totally set against submitting to Him.  5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart (MIND) was only evil continually. 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repented me that I have made them." Genesis 6:5-7.  Not only was the conduct of man reprehensible, in God's sight, but the mindset of the people,   their imaginations and thoughts, was also totally given over to sin and rebellion against God.   This is exactly where we are at today,   More and more people are in their minds, saying to God "Go away. I don't want you telling me what to do. Leave me alone, get away from me.'' And this is precisely what God says he eventually does.     To avoid this fate happening to us, God tells us there is a place we must come to.                                                       

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To come to the place of repentance,  we must humble ourselves, we must pray, we must seek God's face, and we must turn from our sins.  God promised if we are willing to come to the place of repentance in this way he will deliver us.  Coming to the place of repentance takes more than simply confessing our sins and saying we're sorry, He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. Prov 28:13.   There are some ministers today who are telling backslidden believers, that they cannot lose their salvation, even if they refuse to repent before God.  Is this what God tells us? can we really continus in our sins, after we are saved, refuse to repent, and still stay saved??  God tells us, that he expects for his children to come to the place of repentance when they fall short.  If not they will face the consequences, for refusing to come to the place of repentance, (eternal death). Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Rev 2:5..  If God says we must repent, and man tells us we don't have to, Who should we listen to God or man?  Many today are like the people of God of old.  They have gotten to a point where they no longer were willing  (or should we say able) TO REPENT. Their expressions of sorrow are superficial and meaningless, so much so that God has given up on trying to get them to repent. Thus he allowed them to continue in their wickedness, to the point of their destruction.  Peter tells us,  " (God), is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should COME TO REPENTANCE". 

Later on in this study we will share with you the main reason why God gives up.  When God showed it to me in his word, all I could do was cry.  This book is not intended to throw fireballs of condemnation on others, from some self perceived posture of self righteousness on my part.  (Knowing me the way I do, I know that I am the last person in the world who should even dare do this).  In this study we will strive to understand why God gives up on trying to change people and leaves them to their own devices.  We will do so, in hopes of examining ourselves, least God leaves us to our own carnal ways.  The real reason why God gives up is not due so much to, drunkenness, lying, homosexuality, whoremongering, stealing, murderers, molestations, false religious cults, etc.  Continuation in conduct and activities such as these are only the symptoms of a sinful nature, which God can deliver us from. 

 

As we know Paul reminded those in the early church, that many of them were guilty of these things and God delivered them. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.  1st Cor 6:9-11. There is another even more painful reason and truth, as to why God gives up.  When God showed me in his word, the main reason why he gives up, I BEGAN TO CRY.  The truth was almost too painful to bare.   I promise you that if you will stay with us in this study and not cast this book aside, God will, reveal through his word, the real reason why He gives up. It is only as we are inwardly honest with ourselves first and then with God, that we will be able to accept the truth, concerning this matter.  I MUST WARN YOU THE TRUTH IS PAINFUL (very).   This may come as a surprise to some, many whom God have given over to a reprobate mind are in a Christian church, or some other religious origination. These are they who have purposely chosen a religious affiliation, over a real relationship with God.   This may be hard for many to accept, but a person can continually reject God, to the point, where God declares, there is no remedy for them.  (compare below)

WHEN GOD GIVES UP 
The Bible makes note of how God called to his people, even to the point of repeatedly sending messengers to them, but they rejected every call of God.  Therefore; God said there was no remedy for his people.  We need to beware least the same fate befalls us. "And the LORD God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up betimes, and sending; because he had compassion on his people, and on his dwelling place:  But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy", 2ND Chrn 36:15-16.   We should take note of how God calls out to us, but when we continually ignore his voice, there comes a time when God decrees that there is no remedy (hope) for us."Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee."  Jer 7:2-16.  How could a people become so wicked in his sight of God, that he tells the prophet to not pray for them, and if he does pray for them, He (God) would not hear?  In this book we will see how a person or a nation, can so insult God, that he eventually gives up on them, and leaves them to their own devices. 
GOD HAS GIVEN MANY OVER TO RELIGION

Not everyone who God gives up on turns over to a reprobate mindset; turns out to be drunks, and whoremongers.   Some who God have given up on, won't even drink tea or coffee, they attend worship service faithfully, give money to their religious origination, pray often, pass out religious literature, etc.   A large group of these individuals, turn into religious, self righteous reprobates. Many today have gotten involved with a religious organization, minus a real relationship with God.  Paul described these individuals this way, "so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith."  2nd Tim 3:8.   Because many in this group reject the truths of God, God will allow them to believe their own religious lies.  Thus they are deceived by one of the many false last day prophets or messiahs. Jesus warned that there would come many who would present themselves as the messiah and savior (offering a way to salvation) and many would be deceived, "4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.  5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many,  11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. Matt 24:4-5-11.  The words of Christ "and shall deceive many" confirms that God will give many people over to religious lies. More and more people are falling victims to one of the many false doctrines and religions, which contradict the teachings guidelines Christ set forth for his true followers.  Especially the teachings concerning, matters such as 1. The sole authority of the Bible, 2. The deity (God ship) of Christ, 3. The necessity of the new birth, 4. The reality of hell, and 5. The vanity of riches.  It's not that God did not try to reveal the truth to them, but they rejected him so much, he finally gave them over to their own religious affiliation and lies.  THUS THEY BECOME RELIGIOUS REPROBATES. 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.  2nd Tim 3:5-7.  Some of these individuals are in a Bible believing church, but they are none the less sitting in church, bound up in religious deception.       

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